I find it so hard having conversations with religious people. Logic doesn’t exist in their world. So infuriating

That's something I once thought too, but in reality I was the shallow one and spiritually underdeveloped. It makes more sense to believe in some god than this being all a big coincidence. It's also literally the big bang THEORY. I wish you spiritually development. It comes with age and life experience.

@superdupernova Amen, brother!

@r.ded the believe in god, religion and spirituality aren’t necessarily the same things.

You can believe in a god without having a religion.
You can have a religion without believing in god.
And you can be a spiritual atheist without a religion.

IDK I'd rather deal with people that knowingly believe things that are illogical than deal with people that believe without proof that they are logical.

Spiritual people go straight to hell. All the way down.

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@D-4got10-01 lmao, though absolutely blasphemous to personify and incarnate the transcendental, and through comedy to boot, still very funny.

But more on topic, belief is simply the universal approach to the impenetrable: cast your elaborate guess on that which cannot be known -- both inextricable to Being.

Myriad tortuous philosophical and metaphisical quandary, most often paving one-way roads to nihilism, are solved by belief alone: time, morality, good and evil, justice, free will, love and war, dealing with crippling anxiety, depression, tragedy and grief, not to speak of the reason, purpose and meaning of life and existence altogether.

Crux is this must be accompanied by serious thought and meditation, not just conviction and parroting, for language rules over prayer as well as reason, and these two cannot be separated.

That being said, it is generally good etiquette to keep belief to oneself; not doing so results in pushing-down-the-throat-type proselytism.

Logos.

@Liebranca > 'That being said, it is generally good etiquette to keep belief to oneself; not doing so results in pushing-down-the-throat-type proselytism.'.

That's my take on most of the things.

I don't really mind people e.g. mentioning in passing their beliefs, values, or whatever.

The only time I have a problem w/ that is when they try forcing that thing on others.