when i see a java fan...

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Not a huge fan either. necessary for Android tho..

I started off hating Java, now I don't want to use anything else for server side.

Come at me bro

What's everyones problem with java? Sure, it might be a little bit excessive when it comes to imposing structure and it's possible that it might be a little bit heavy at runtime but it's so beautiful and easy to write once you got used to it. Also static typing. Static typing is always a plus in my book.

Haters are gonna hate. You non object oriented plebs.

Yes, Java sucks so bad. Why anybody still uses it (especially for desktop UI stuff) is beyond me.

I create lightweight microsevices in Java. Yes, lightweight.

Java can't be light-weight. 😝 It's against the laws of nature.

It depends on the programmer to make it lightweight. Language is just a tool. Mold the program however you want to.

@zettageek still use it? It's the most used language in the world. It's a general purpose language. AWL, JavaFX and Spring are all good for desktop btw.

So no one has heard of JIT? You know you don't have to run Java on the default run time environment. Like android uses there own.

Maybe my beef with Java is how poorly implemented stuff is that I interface with. Here's the first things that come to mind for me: Battery drain. Performance is laggy. Java Swing and it's butt ugly UI. Random crashing. Did I mention bad performance?

Oh-- and TOTAL CRAP Oracle Forms apps that have Java as a runtime dependency. Shoot me now.

@zettageek Where on earth did you even see a Java Swing program? I'm a Java guy and that's a rare sight for me. To be fair a trainee could put together a Swing program, so that was probably the case with whatever you're talking about. Don't blame the tool man.

@zettageek like all languages of this size there is an ugly side. I feel sorry that you have only seen that side...

@JavaRules The training book I had used Swing. Was so freaking ugly. Ended up going a different direction. (JS FTW)

@zettageek I had the same thing, used Swing once. Laughed. Then moved on. But kept with Java.

For desktop UI, yes, Java blows. I remember my brief stint with Swing #neveragain

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