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The EU is founded on the belief that, because the people in charge of the government are well-meaning experts, if they think something ought to be done then they should be able to do it, without having to bugger about convincing an ignorant and bigoted electorate to vote for it.
By the same logic, the criminal justice system is also run by well-meaning experts, and if they think someone ought to be locked up, they should be able to lock them up, without having to convince an ignorant and bigoted jury that they're guilty.
But passing a law that says we can lock up whoever we like would be controversial. So the smart solution is to ban pretty much everything and then be selective about how you enforce it. -
@donkulator Did you read their proposal for their age(?) verification template that they posted on github. It pretty much only limited the verification to be done on verified android & iphone devices for mobile authentication. So outdated OS, grapheneOS already fell outside their proposal.
The repo got some backlash 2 months before it went semi-viral on Reddit. Nothing happened, only after it went semi-viral, it got updated to not require 'verified Android or Iphone devices'.
Even the experts who wrote this template did not care enough. I have my doubts that this will be a net benefit even if done perfectly. -
@wojtek322 here are your questions answered, the site did not become what i want, but in sections (below the Q/A) all your questions are answered i guess. I did not even choose the dramatic title. https://static.molodetz.nl/chat-con...
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@wojtek322 hmm, did read it some more, i really like the site. Your beautiful questions created this amazing site, not bad huh. What a time to be alive. How many sites are having such nice overview on the subject like this?
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@wojtek322 only Gemini is used! Then I requested some changes. But you can ik right upper corner click actions->create site. And there it is. The design of the site was already since first version. You can vibe a whole site there.
Also, the quiz that it generates for you, you can ask for the source and make any changes you want. See https://static.molodetz.nl/retoor.h.... Was made in a minute. I did not make the quesyions. It generated based on my software philosophy (for llm's, that's why tests are forbidden :p). -
@whimsical Okay, thanks. I'll check it out when I have some free time.
when your code is a mess but everything work out in the end
When you keep getting +1s on a rant you posted a month ago.
Go big or go home.
I got so many concerns/questions about the EU chat control and the future. Sorry for my long rant lol:
1) What about projects that are on life support and no active development?
2) What about chat application in video games or the chat service on the website of a local shop
3) What about false flags? Like that parent who got into legal trouble for sharing a picture of his kid with a doctor to get a medical opinion on some skin condition. (might misremember the details)
4) What about false flags like instagram banning accounts and forwarding it to the police department and over-exhausting the resources of the police (accidental 'DDOS' of their personel)
5) What if the content shared in country A is legally OK but not in country B. What if you then travel there? Or if your participant is from that country B.
6) What about content that is taboo but should be OK to discussed? Like puberty or hormonal discussions online? Some subreddits like "stopsmoking" is now also regional banned by Reddit in the UK to avoid any unneeded risks. That is bad. YouTube had some problem where adult content existed on their platform but labeled as educational.
7) What if you encrypt messages before sending it. Will you be banned just in case? What if you need support with an app and you send an encrypted application crash log that came from your computer, will you now be banned just in case?
8) What if you like privacy and have those apps for innocent purposes. Is having those apps now illegal
9) What if criminals use apps from Asia or Africa or somewhere where this law is not present/enforced. Or what if they create a simple app with this encryption. It is not difficult to make one.
10) Before 2001, airport security was very lax but then 9/11 happened and the security increased. It never went back to the state before. Since they have or will have this check, what will them stop it from expanding it after the next disaster of an unrelated accident (like terrorist attack).
11) What if those services miss a case? Will the company that allows this to be send now have legal trouble?
12) What if users are using metaphors or practice self-censorship to avoid flagged words? We see it with monetization in social media (like murder or killing is replaced with "unaliving")
13) It will be just an other problem to start a new company with limited budget. So start-ups will just have a bit harder time to break into the market.
14) this might just push users away from mainstream options
15) it's just an other attack vector for hackers to use
16) Do we want to have private companies be able to scan our messages because they are contracted by the government? They can have their own bias to satisfy their shareholders. What if they are invested by the Big Oil so critic towards the Big Oil is altered? How certain can you be this won't happen now or in the future. Reddit Admin did that before so who knows at this point.
17) Anonymity will disappear.
18) Different companies verify users and store this data so this seems like a major cyberrisk and identity theft waiting to happen
19) fragmentation of users. it is now annoying that some family or friends don't use whatsapp but use telegram and the other way around. You might need +5 chat application to keep contact and lose social relationships.
20) Is AI detected messages even legal proof in court?
21) What if you talk about video games and flag the AI system this way? Or use abbreviation from a niche community that also overlaps with flagged words (like checkpoint being abbreviated as CP) or just the language with poor support or use a 'dialect' in your chat that trips up the software.
22) What if your phone is stolen and they send those messages in your name or this is done remotely.
23) What if you are sharing old family pictures and there is 1 and only 1 odd picture that just barely trips up the system.
24) Games like 'Beyond human' also has gameplay that hurts a fictional child which fits the storyline and acts as shock value. Will this be banned
25) The newer population will see this as normal so what will they find acceptable if they can now vote
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