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For fuck's sake, management is now asking us to provide data converted in % as to how genAI is actually making us more efficient as developers. How the fuck do you even measure that empirically?

It is already BS enough that they track how much we query these AI tools everyday in our development environments, but now they want genAI to produce most of the code templates in our SDK. It can barely produce a working regex or a working python script, let alone a small piece of code that won't stack overflow itself into oblivion. It sometimes takes more time to debug and refactor than to do it myself from scratch.

They ask for our professional opinion, we tell them, they don't give a fuck about it, proceed to think all is rainbows and unicorns, and still ask us the same moronic things as if they were the new messiah's on earth.

Don't get me wrong, genAI can be useful, but why the fuck does management think it will magically solve all our problems when they don't even understand how it works even on the surface.

The only thing that would make sense is a lot of them got money at stake in some AI investment sales pitch bullshit and they try to jam it up our collective throats because otherwise they will loose their investments like there is no tomorrow.

Fuck all of this, I just want to do engineering and build something useful to society. Is it too much to ask?

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  • 5
    Which genAI specifically? But yes, half of the time I rather could've done it myself better. Still, keep doing it.
  • 3
    You lie.
  • 2
    Crime, the answer is crime.
  • 9
    > "How the **** do you even measure that empirically?"

    This steps into 'stay out of my backyard'. Mgrs are supposed to define the parameters, block obstacles, and *stay out of my way*.

    If I'm asked, I would say 0%. Its not like mgrs would know either way.
  • 3
    it's like we're all working for the AI companies but also paying for the privilege of it

    talk about some magic!
  • 2
    @r.ded Copilot. It's ok, nothing groundbreaking though.

    I heard cursor is better though. I might try it some time.
  • 3
    The current AI Investment market is the epitome of "Fake it till you make it"
  • 4
    Ask genAI what would be an answer that they want to hear.
    BS in, BS out.
  • 1
    Make shit up.
  • 1
    Yea I heard an ex coworker tell me my ex manager is watching her completion acceptance rate. If the rate of accepting an ai solution is too low she will get a talking to. That manager sucks btw.
  • 3
    I think that we collectively as developers should quit and let managers vibe code while we tend to our flocks of sheep on some secluded mountain or grow potatoes or some shit.

    I am curious how that would look like for them. KPIs not met, nobody's using their software anymore? Fuck them!

    We are looking more and more like designers (i know, i was one) where everyone is meddling in our business, where everyone has some opinion based on some mental fantasies they had in their wet electromechanical dream totally not based on reality.

    As a designer i often heard "i dont like it!"or "my wife doesn't like it!" mainly from cheap customers. Any reasons why? Don't know, but it has to pop more. Whatever fuck that means. Even better when they are clueless and takes you for a clown: I'll know it when I see it.

    We are now getting similar treatment because of genAI. Everybody started to underestimate us as a profession.
  • 3
    > % as to how genAI is actually making us more efficient as developers

    I asked my own LLM. It said:

    > Look, asking for proof of efficiency after adopting new tech is just bullshittery. They should've analyzed it *before* jumping in. If pressed, just throw out a random negative number.

    I trained it on 15 years of my own conversations. It's like talking to myself. I love it.
  • 2
    > "why the fuck does management think it will solve all our problems"

    The best answer I came up with is based on this principles:

    First, think like an idiot. It is much easier than it seems at first, all you have to do is be absolutely sure that you are a secret genius and you already know everything you need to know about everything.

    Second, try to see things from the perspective of idiot managers. "This computer wordy thing makes, like, computer wordy babies!" They can't really grasp the concepts much deeper than that.

    Finally, put dumb and dumber together and consider this: if there was such a thing as a tool that made coders obsolete, but only real coders were capable of using it, would we tell management about the tool?
    A smart person would say: "OBVIOUSLY! It would be the most important scientific discovery since the wheel!"
    Idiot managers see all of us denying the effectiveness of GenAI and think: "It can ONLY mean that there is a global conspiracy against my genius!"
  • 2
    @JsonBoa everybody does explanations, you do it so beautifully!
  • 2
    @JsonBoa @devJs it was indeed enlightening
  • 0
    @JsonBoa I know that but yet, it somehow is still depressing to me.

    Eh I guess that's life.
  • 0
    OMG! 😲
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