it's harder to tell between AI and people now... because people are just speaking like AI now wtf

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I think people are losing their damned mind. Weird fucking cadence. Short sentences. Why can't it be all one thought? So here's the thing that makes me want to scream. This isn't an AI problem, this is a people problem.

Human upset. Initiating protocol bitchslap.

It was fairly predictable. Hell, I've recently seen those vids where the teachers are frustrated because children are questioning the usefulness of learning things like e.g. reading w/ reasoning like 'Why learn how to read, when I can just ask ChatGPT to read it to me?'.

...well, can't beat _that_ logic...

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I _am_ reminded of that one 'The Outer Limits' episode that was brushing on this concept. S02E02 - Resurrection, https://imdb.com/title/tt0667939/ in case someone is interested.

Damn it, wrong episode. It was the S03E05 - 'Stream Of Consciousness'. https://imdb.com/title/tt0667957/ .

@D-4got10-01 I watched this as a kid and this episode one of those that I still remember very well.

@D-4got10-01 it’s really interesting.

We used to argue that, why do we need to learn how to do addition (or multiplication, or division) in our heads or on paper, when we can use calculators.
The answer from the teachers was: because we don’t always have a calculator with us.
That turned out to be false.

And that chatgpt argument sounds very similar.
Interesting times ahead. Scary, but interesting.

I recently had a conversation with a friend over something and I was shocked how my conclussion sounds like a chatgpt conclussion with very similar sentence structure. It is literally shaping our linguistics lol

Normal: man will become machine, machine will become man.

@jestdotty not sure if I understand the point that you are making but if it’s that being able to do basic math in your head is useful, then I agree.

However the point that I was making was more about the ability to do, let‘s say division of two numbers, at least 3 digits, on paper.
I admit I‘m not able to. I‘d probably have troubles with multiplication as well.
And it’s hard to argue for the utility to have that skill when we all have calculators in our pockets practically everywhere.

Of course, this is different from doing basic math in your head, or even more important, to know how to meaningfully estimate and how to make plausibility checks.

For the one kind of skill, using AI (like chatgpt) is probably justified.
For the other kind, it’s certainly not justified and very worrying.

@jestdotty what drugs are you on again?

@jestdotty ok. I’ll just leave that uncommented.

@Lensflare I've also watched those as a kid, initially. Later on, I got my hands on the whole series.

@Lensflare > 'The answer from the teachers was: because we don’t always have a calculator with us.

That turned out to be false.

And that chatgpt argument sounds very similar.

Interesting times ahead. Scary, but interesting.'.

For the calculator, it is true, but the skill is useful, still.

For the ChatGPT it's a problem when people outsource their whole thinking process.

'Interesting times', indeed. Properly schooled children will understand. Probably the lazy ones will retain the 'why bother' mentality.

That is funny that people start to blame Ai for that but far before it, it was already like that. Take reddit.

@whimsical I'm surprised to my extraordinarily short comment here. Must've been tired.