Our HR person is "currently on leave", but it's not any kind of official time off according to our work calendar. I hope she's getting fired.

Maybe she’s sick? But yeah after how she’s been treating you like a shit stain hopefully she is

You could send her two tickets to a Coldplay concert... See how that goes.

@jestdotty HR can still get fired

I sent this to our HR on their last day at work:

https://youtube.com/watch/...

She thought it was really funny, but she left on good terms.

@TeachMeCode no, sick leave is recorded in the same system. She's just showing as "on leave" on slack and a few people have said she's on holiday but any of that would be visible on our holiday calendar. So here's hoping. I'm wondering if it relates to me making a subject access request that includes examples of her lying to me...

Teeheehee

@YourMom > "I sent this to our HR on their last day at work"

Ahhh..Strange Brew. Classic.

@TeachMeCode > "HR can still get fired"

We've fired two HR VPs since I've been here (nearly 28 years).

First one for reasons unknown, we think he and the CEO got into an argument over something. Nothing nefarious, he was a good guy.

Second one (replacing the first one) was a hire from one of those really expensive corporate placement companies. Came in with very impressive credentials, could talk the HR talk, etc.

All fell apart when he was expected to do actual HR work. He was kinda surprised that he would be expected to understand our insurance, local employment/safety regulations, etc, saying "At my last job other people do that work."

He was here maybe two weeks.

I sometimes understand the hate for HR, so I guess we're lucky. Our HR folks are rock stars.

No touchy-feely team building nonsense, you come to work and you get paid.

@PaperTrail my first job, HR was great. They didn't do anything other than tell people to leave me the fuck alone. I absolutely loved it. Now
this stupid cow is trying to speed run breaking as many laws as possible then lying as much as possible to cover it up, tried intimidating me to which my answer was "get fucked".

@PaperTrail > "Our HR folks are rock stars."

Example of rock star attitude.

HR VP 'Adam' (who started as a logistics mgr, worked his way up) knew about how hourly folks would game the system by clocking in/out multiple times gaming how the software calculated the hours worked (TL;DR).

Because their software didn't log the behavior, we had no way of proving this occurred.

Fed up with the complaints, Adam one day called a muster of the entire logistics department, outlining from this day forward, anyone caught gaming the system would be fired immediately. No warning, no probation, you're fired.

Adam: "To prove I'm serious, Jeff, Tom, Bill. You're fired. Get out. You're final check will be direct deposited"

Jeff: "YOU CAN'T FIRE US! YOU HAVE NO PROOF! THAT'S ILLEGAL!"

Adam: "This is a right to work state. I can fire you for wearing brown shoes. Get out."

After that, folks gaming the system suddenly stopped.

@PaperTrail I game the fact the time clock rounds time to nearest 15 minute mark for its calcs. But it records the actual time I clock in/out. So they CAN tell. I will leave at 4:56 knowing it will count that last 4 minutes as being there until 5. The mark is actually right at 4:53. Seven 8 minutes past 4:45. Plausible deniability.

@PaperTrail god I'm happy I don't live in America...

I recall having to record hours for a full time salaried position. Why? Who knows….it was a remote dev position too

@TeachMeCode yeah I had to do it for salaried but then if I was even 15 minute under they deducted my pay... even tho where I live you have to pay overtime on salaried they never did also

@jestdotty > "what's it matter how many hours you do if you get the work done."

That's the thing about working in a warehouse, there is always work to do. If you're talking to a hot girl/guy and not stocking shelves, someone else is having to do your job.

I don't know exactly how the rounding worked. The old software didn't log the attempts but calculated the time differences in the attempts and always tried to give the employee the 'benefit of the doubt' in the event where they meant to clock in/out and accidentally did the other (if that makes sense). Something like if you clocked in, then clocked out in 5 seconds, it left you clocked in because you must have accidentally swiped your card twice (using the first time stamp, not how many times you swiped).

They figured out they could do that several times and a 15 minute break (calculated by the system) could last an hour just as long as they swiped within that 15 minute period, essentially restarting the counter.

@PaperTrail yeah that's fine

if they don't like their job then I guess there's nothing to like at your workplace

IF YA AINT SWEEPING YA AINT WORKING. GET TO WORK

hope you pay well for all those uselessly expended calories. but you sound like an immense justifier

@jestdotty > "but you sound like an immense justifier"

Expectation of 8 hours of work for a fair exchange of 8 hours of pay?

Yes, I am a justifier.

@jestdotty > "hope you pay well for all those uselessly expended calories."

We do, $5 to $10 an hour above the average in this area. Our janitors make $22 an hour. Nobody is forced to work here and pay is generally not something folks complain about.

If someone is wanting a paycheck just for showing up, I'll send them to you.