How would it change your working behavior if you get about 5% shares of the company you are working at?

Not much, probably

I work for a startup, so the shares are basically a lottery ticket. Having an extra 5% would be a bit like having a lottery ticket when there's a rollover or something.

I have now remembered that, in the unlikely event that this metaphorical lottery ticket pays out, my ex-wife will get half of it.

Fuck's sake.

Probably no change at all.

I'd actually start bossing people around so they stop being failures

sounds like aligned incentives to me provided who is in charge of the shares doesn't fuck everyone last minute, which does tend to happen sometimes

in my experience people are babies who need psychological help, not a job as a cope outlet for their unmet needs and delusional neuroses. everybody will be getting therapy advice from now on and i'd talk a lot more and write more manuals for stuff that isn't even my business. probably get promoted to CEO at some point by accident. probably everyone will hate me cuz that's how group projects went when I took charge

at jobs I just do my shit and keep out of people's business though. I don't want the drama. the drama finds you anyway though so clearly my strategy hasn't worked as solidly as I was hoping

5% of something that is worth nothing makes no money.

yeah that's a good idea actchually i want sharez

Nah, always gave 100% so, what would be different. Money is not a good motivator. Got a few times a raise because I wanted to leave. And at a certain point I was like - huh, what to do with that money, that wasn't part of the problem at all! So at certain moment I couldn't be bought anymore.

MY PROBLEMS WOULD'VE BEEN SOLVED BY MONEY

SO I ASKED BUT THEY JUST GAVE ME INSULTS INSTEAD SO I LEFT

Probably nothing, because in the end, those kind of shares don't guarantee any position of power or governance, so, as it was said, it's essentially a lottery.

A shitty lottery usually, because most startups fold, but then again, the first batch of Facebook workers are all millionaires now thanks to that, so...

If you feel your work is adequately compensated, it's just a potential bonus. If not, there's probably small chance for profit since they won't retain any talent.

Depends how early I would be allowed to sell them; either nothing would change or I would treat it as a salary cut. Share trading isn't that hard, and if I wanted to hold any, it would for sure not be in the sorry collection of rejects, delusionals and professional embezzlers that I earn my livelihood at.

Interesting. So most of you would not see much value in it.

I work for a very small startup and most of us have shares. First I thought that would motivate us all to keep up the pace and we would push our selves.

But in the long term it turned out, that as soon as a single person thinks that one or two others don't do their part properly anymore, they also reduce their workload. Basically saying "I won't work for the others shares, if they don't work for mine". That again leads to others being frustrated and work at a lower pace and so on.

Some are nearly that frustrated, that they would rather give up their shares and leave the company, although even our salary is quite good here.

@jestdotty I would really try to work with you as a boss. I like challenges. :D

@donkulator Damn, that sucks.

You should (per contract) give her something right now when the lottery is not worth anything, so she release you from every other obligation.

@glowFX yeah people are so strangely passive aggressive. communism mindset I guess

@jestdotty your thoughts are often really incomprehensible to me 😂

Explain how in your view being passive aggressive relates to communism.

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@Lensflare cuz even if 1/6 isn't doing their part they all benefit

in game theory you'd still do the work

shares are extra. people don't even get shares at a normal company. so it's illogical to slack in the cost benefit analysis way (logic)

it only "makes sense" if the slacking is a rebellion, a mutiny, an activism. this is within the category of passive aggression as an emotional motivator, not logic but "liberal emotions". it is also all communist manuals always talk about. communism is best understood as a bunch of manuals for how to topple regimes -- in reality there's no structural ideology for replacement, it's all just sabotage manuals

I hope that made sense how I connected those dots

@jestdotty it contributed like 10% to my understanding but that’s ok. No further explanation required.

Not much, but I might be more interested in the company's long-term goals/planning

Not working at all. With 5% of such large company I wouldn't have to work another day of my life :)